On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard wrote: [delete] >>Power of the mind or not. I am simply saying that with the 'I >am a Witch, I can do magick' card comes the very real reality. Anyone is what they say they are. >You strive for people to believe you can do it. In fact your >lives are spent 'knowing' you can and trying to get the world >to take you seriously.

Real magicians don't give a tinker's damn what people in general think about anything. They worry about what THEY believe. Only pbonies need other people to believe they aren't phonies. >Here is the twist.now that they are starting to, it gets >to fall under the heading of violence and a threat that most >probably will result then in arrests, loss of jobs and jail >time.

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Welcome to the real world. You want it.you got it. If that was true, ren, for example, would have been in jail for the last 20 years. Fake witches like you and storm and ren want people to believe that the world takes you seriously.

Be thankful that they don't. If they did, most of you would be dead. -- Sidney Lambe - Evergreen Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - Tom 12:17.

On Mar 29, 9:13 pm, Sidney Lambe wrote: >On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard >wrote: >>>BTW.why do you feel the need to crosspost everything? To get >>people on arw so it will not die? That time of the month? You haven't made the big time yet, Angelique.

He hasn't become so disturbed by what you have to say that he killfiles you. All the best people are in Sid's killfile. Someday the whole world will be there and Sid will finally be at peace. On Mar 30, 7:16 am, Tom wrote: >On Mar 29, 9:13 pm, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>>On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard >>wrote: >>>>BTW.why do you feel the need to cross post everything? To get >>>people on arw so it will not die? >>>Hi aine. That time of the month?

>>You haven't made the big time yet, Angelique. He hasn't become so >disturbed by what you have to say that he killfiles you. All the best >people are in Sid's killfile. Someday the whole world will be there >and Sid will finally be at peace. On Mar 29, 11:30 am, Sidney Lambe wrote: >On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard >wrote: >>[delete] >>>>>Power of the mind or not. I am simply saying that with the 'I >>am a Witch, I can do magick' card comes the very real reality.

>>Oh right. Anyone is what they say they are. >>You strive for people to believe you can do it.

In fact your >>lives are spent 'knowing' you can and trying to get the world >>to take you seriously. >>Real magicians don't give a tinker's damn what people in general >think about anything. They worry about what THEY believe. Only pbonies need other people to believe they aren't phonies.

>Here is the twist.now that they are starting to, it gets >>to fall under the heading of violence and a threat that most >>probably will result then in arrests, loss of jobs and jail >>time. Welcome to the real world. You want it.you got it. >>If that was true, ren, for example, would have been in jail >for the last 20 years. >Fake witches like you and storm and ren want people to believe >that the world takes you seriously. Be thankful that they don't. If they did, most of you would >be dead.

On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard wrote: >On Mar 29, 11:30=A0am, Sidney Lambe >wrote: >>On alt.religion.wicca, Angelique Bouchard >>wrote: >>>>[delete] >>>>>Power of the mind or not. I am simply saying that with the 'I >>>am a Witch, I can do magick' card comes the very real reality. >>>>Oh right.

Anyone is what they say they are. >In this case it will not matter if they really can do magic. Put it >out there that is the path you follow, call yourself a Witch >and it stands to reason if you think you can do good magic, you >can curse as well.

That only 'stands to reason' for people who know nothing about magick. And the fact is, that most people in this culture don't even believe in magick. >Reasonable doubt hinges on the persons lifestyle and behavior. You are trying to make people believe that they can be prosecuted for playing the role of a witch. For _saying_ that they have injured someone with supposed 'magick'.

You really want to believe that people actually believe you are a witch, don't you. [delete] -- Sidney Lambe - Evergreen Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - Aine 10:51.

Well said on all points. Even the one about being embarassed by most pagans. Lately, I find I have less tolerance for the silliness of my spiritual kin. Maybe spring will trigger growth in my optimism along with all the flowers and such. Maybe I'll just concentrate on the flowers and such for a while.:-) In the meantime, good luck with Sid unconciously making your points for you.

That works extremely well. I am impressed, as always, with your skills with the less knowledgable. The pagan flakes around you must either respect you immensely or loathe you entirely. Probably both.:-) -storm Sidney Lambe 08:22. On alt.religion.wicca, storm wrote: >On Mar 29, 11:16=A0am, Angelique Bouchard >wrote: >>>Power of the mind or not. I am simply saying that with the 'I >>am a Witch, I can do magick' card comes the very real reality. >>You strive for people to believe you can do it.

In fact your >>lives are spent 'knowing' you can and trying to get the world >>to take you seriously. Here is the twist.now that they are >>starting to, it gets to fall under the heading of violence and >>a threat that most probably will result then in arrests, loss >>of jobs and jail time. Welcome to the real world. You want >>it.you got it. >This part I agree with.

If you are at all going to claim the >ability and demand to be taken seriously, then you should >not complain about being taken seriously. Except that no one with a functioning mind takes any neo-pagan psuedo-magician ('witch', 'druid', 'shaman', etc.) seriously.

>If you walk into work claiming you are armed and dangerous then >you should be treated as armed and dangerous. Except that guns and bullets actually exist, and everyone knows it. What this fool is saying is that if someone comes to work and claims to have alien friends with death rays hovering over the building, that they should be taken seriously. Anyone claiming to be able to harm someone with magick is making a claim that is at least as absurd as that. [delete] If these neo-pagan clowns could do what they want everyone to believe they can do, they'd be filthy rich and would have much better things to do than hang out on the Internet and play the role.

Real magicians are not concerned with controlling others. They are concerned with controlling _themselves_.

If someone tries to harm them, the deploy the appropriate shield and go about their business. Or, when the threat has no substance at all, they do what I do with all of the supposed magicians (by whatever name) who have threatened me with what _they_ call 'magick'. I laugh at them and go about my business, -- Sidney Lambe - Evergreen Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - Sidney Lambe 08:31.

On alt.religion.wicca, storm wrote: >On Mar 30, 11:01=A0am, Angelique Bouchard wrote: >[delete] >In the meantime, good luck with Sid unconciously making your points >for you. That was the result of her clumsy use of the English language, actually. I'm pretty sure she's hitting the sauce again.

>That works extremely well. I am impressed, as always, with >your skills with the less knowledgable. Like you, aine couldn't make water wet with the superstitious woo-woo you folks call 'magick'. >The pagan flakes around you must either respect you immensely >or loathe you entirely. Probably both.:-) >>-storm Says the quintessential neo-pagan flake. 'Storm' is short for 'windstorm', because he is an endless fountain of pretentious and delusional hot air. Take a look at the end of this post by him, where he supposedly curses me.

Needless-to-say, I didn't know it had happened until I read the post: Like all of the neo-pagan psuedo-magicians, he could just as well have learned 'magick' from Harry Potter. -- Sidney Lambe - Evergreen Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com - Aine 09:13. This fool, never once mentioned Alien Friends or death rays.

Do try to keep your opinions at least in the context, sid. >Anyone claiming to be able to harm someone with magick is making >a claim that is at least as absurd as that. >>[delete] >>If these neo-pagan clowns could do what they want everyone to >believe they can do, they'd be filthy rich and would have much >better things to do than hang out on the Internet and play the >role. >>Real magicians are not concerned with controlling others.

They >are concerned with controlling _themselves_. >>If someone tries to harm them, the deploy the appropriate shield >and go about their business.

>>Or, when the threat has no substance at all, they do what I do >with all of the supposed magicians (by whatever name) who have >threatened me with what _they_ call 'magick'. I laugh at them and >go about my business. I worry for the ones such as yourself that can and do get it. Such is life that the good can be taken down by their own 'bad' who sit on the same side of the fence with them.

Disasters are not selective.neither is the law of people. >In the meantime, good luck with Sid unconciously making your points >for you. That works extremely well. I am impressed, as always, with >your skills with the less knowledgable. The pagan flakes around you >must either respect you immensely or loathe you entirely.

Probably >both.:-) No doubt. It is my Lot in life.:) Aine 09:20. On Mar 31, 7:15 am, storm wrote: >>Well said on all points. Even the one about being embarassed by most >pagans. Lately, I find I have less tolerance for the silliness of my >spiritual kin. Maybe spring will trigger growth in my optimism along >with all the flowers and such. Maybe I'll just concentrate on the >flowers and such for a while.:-) There's a good idea.

I think there's too much pressure put on pagans to be 'spiritual'. Why should they be 'spiritual'? There's no religion that's more mundane (in and of the world) than paganism. If you want to be spiritual, go join a freakin' monastery. If you want to be pagan, strip yourself naked, jump over a bale-fire, and fuck the prettiest person who'll have you.

Yay for food! Yay for drink!

You don't like those things? You're no pagan. To hell with all that political, mystical, and intellectual shit. Leave it to the bloody Jesuits. On alt.religion.wicca, Sidney Lambe wrote: >On alt.religion.wicca, storm wrote: >>[delete] >>'storm' wrote: >>So, lets posit that the US Justice system recognizes magic as >>real enough to be prosecutable, >>That's like positing that the moon was made of green cheese. >>If the theatrical and romantic woo-woo practiced by the >overwhelming majority of neo-pagans worked anywhere near as >billed, these organizations would rule the world.

>>Instead, they remain nothing but role-playing sex and social >clubs. >>Full of deluded and fatheaded windbags like 'storm'. >>Don't ever mess with a bookmage. They'll bore you to death >in no time at all. >The cowardly windbag removed everything but ARW from the Newsgroups header but ARW, without saying anything about it, and I had forgotten what a sneaky little twerp this bookmage is. -- Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca - All will be well.

All manner of things will be well. On Apr 14, 10:05 am, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>The cowardly windbag removed everything but ARW from the >Newsgroups header but ARW, without saying anything about it, and >I had forgotten what a sneaky little twerp this bookmage is. Now that's interesting. How is it that Sid didn't notice that he wasn't spewing to as many newsgroups as he thought he was? If Sid is correct in his assertion that his belief makes the world, and if Sid believed that his words were going out to all his favorite newsgroups, then that should have been the case, despite any 'sneaky' posts that only went to a single newsgroup. Yet, for some reason, Sid's reply was only to a single newsgroup and it wasn't until he happened to notice it later that he re-posted to the groups he mistakenly believed he had been posting to all along. So here we have an observable discontinuity between what Sid believes and what actually happens.

Yet, lest we expect that Sid might re- evaluate his claims in the light of this evidence, we must recall that evidence is only something that others must submit to Sid to support their claims. Sid's own claims are true regardless of any evidence, positive or negative, at all. Daniel Baumgarten 15:05. Tom writes: >So here we have an observable discontinuity between what Sid believes >and what actually happens.

Yet, lest we expect that Sid might re- >evaluate his claims in the light of this evidence, we must recall >that evidence is only something that others must submit to Sid to >support their claims. Sid's own claims are true regardless of any >evidence, positive or negative, at all. They say that fact is 'stubborn,' and that the truth 'hurts' when it disagrees with belief.

Based on this, I wonder if Sid is one of those unfortunate souls who is born without any capacity to feel pain. Now you might say I'm taking aphorisms too literally, but think about it.

Those who cannot feel pain never live very long, because they never adjust in response to stresses on the body (a behavior that healthy people take for granted). Sid, however, clearly is alive and, we might presume, within his own life expectancy. I think this idea explains a lot. -- Daniel Baumgarten - SDF Public Access UNIX System - Sidney Lambe 16:23. On alt.religion.wicca, Daniel Baumgarten wrote: >Tom writes: [delete] 'Tom', under a variety of aliases, wanders around the Usenet pretending, with the help of google, to be the world's foremost authority on everything. It is a juvenile game. I killfiled the shit-for-brains loser a very long time ago.

He isn't even bright enough to know that there's a difference between real knowledge, which comes from experience, and parroting from a document. -- Sidney Lambe / Evergreen - usenet4444 (AT) gmail (DOT) com Solitaire Wiccan Priest - Spellsinger Wicca - All will be well. All manner of things will be well. Mike Duffy 16:05. Tom wrote in m: >So here we have an observable discontinuity between what Sid >believes and what actually happens. Yet, lest we expect that Sid >might re- evaluate his claims in the light of this evidence, He killfiles anyone(*) who disagrees with him, so how can he ever be aware of such things?

He has furthermore written custom killfiling software to also remove replies from non-killfiled people in response to those in his killfile. He insulates himself so much from any form of dissent that he has, in fact, created a separate usenet reality for himself. I'm not sure if he doesn't like something I said or if it was something someone else said, because not only did he killfile me on my very first post here (which was a one (1) line comment on another post), but he also killfiled 'everyone who participated in the thread'. Not only is this is not true when you think about it, (because he himself was participating as well) but how could anyone possibly be more inflated with pompous self-importance? I'm sure that eventually he will start posting his killfile. (*) He tolerates women who disagree with him, so I guess there's still hope for him. -- Proud inhabitant of Sidney's killfile since 15 Feb 2011.?

On Apr 14, 3:05 pm, Daniel Baumgarten wrote: >>They say that fact is 'stubborn,' and that the truth 'hurts' when >it disagrees with belief. Based on this, I wonder if Sid is one >of those unfortunate souls who is born without any capacity to feel >pain. Now you might say I'm taking aphorisms too literally, but >think about it. Those who cannot feel pain never live very long, >because they never adjust in response to stresses on the body (a >behavior that healthy people take for granted). Sid, however, >clearly is alive and, we might presume, within his own life >expectancy.

I think this idea explains a lot. There is research suggesting that the amygdala mediates emotional memory formation and significantly contributes to our sense of reality. It also seems to affect the capacity to learn from experience, such that a person with inhibited amygdala functionality would be unable to learn from new experience, especially where it relates to a sense of immediate reality. The amygdala also seems to have a big part to play in social relatedness. Functional MRI studies of experienced monks who meditate on compassion show a much greater degree of amygdala activity than novices doing the same kind of meditation.

If we're going to go neurological on his ass, I'd suggest that Sid has some malfunctions in his amygdala that generate the unsociable and eccentric view of reality that he displays. On Apr 14, 4:23 pm, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>'Tom', under a variety of aliases, wanders around the Usenet pretending, >with the help of google, to be the world's foremost authority on >everything. Sid sees me everywhere, and I'm a sinister, deceptive figure indeed. He doesn't seem to realize that he encounters my posts only when he crossposts his rants to alt.magick, so when he wanders around Usenet pretending to be the world's foremost authority on everything, he thinks I'm wandering around with him, doing the same thing. Except that he believes he really is the world's foremost authority on everything whereas I'm merely pretending to be.

>I killfiled the shit-for-brains loser a very long time ago. He has to avoid my posts so that they don't disturb him, but he can't resist peeking to see if I'm still out there, stalking him like a predator in the night. >He isn't even bright enough to know that there's a difference >between real knowledge, which comes from experience, and >parroting from a document. Sid's experience produces 'real knowledge'. Anybody who disagrees with Sid is merely parroting documents. Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole 23:59.

Daniel Baumgarten wrote: >Tom writes: >>>So here we have an observable discontinuity between what Sid believes >>and what actually happens. Yet, lest we expect that Sid might re- >>evaluate his claims in the light of this evidence, we must recall >>that evidence is only something that others must submit to Sid to >>support their claims. Sid's own claims are true regardless of any >>evidence, positive or negative, at all.

>>They say that fact is 'stubborn,' and that the truth 'hurts' when >it disagrees with belief. Based on this, I wonder if Sid is one >of those unfortunate souls who is born without any capacity to feel >pain. Explains it all!

>Now you might say I'm taking aphorisms too literally, but >think about it. I did long ago when he used to claim he was some Apprentice Magi. First thing I did was point out the Disparity of his Nick and his Words. That was when he changed and started using this new All Knowing White Magic or Special 'K' of his own which he claims in his own words makes him every bit as much a fruit loop as me!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole 00:30. Sidney Lambe wrote: >On alt.religion.wicca, Daniel Baumgarten wrote: >>Tom writes: >[delete] >>'Tom', under a variety of aliases, wanders around the Usenet pretending, >with the help of google, to be the world's foremost authority on >everything. >>It is a juvenile game. >>I killfiled the shit-for-brains loser a very long time ago.

>He isn't even bright enough to know that there's a difference >between real knowledge, which comes from experience, and >parroting from a document. Glad this is almost my last thread to read, that gave me a cramp in my side!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole 00:33. Tom wrote: >Yet, lest we expect that Sid might re- >evaluate his claims in the light of this evidence, we must recall >that evidence is only something that others must submit to Sid to >support their claims.

Sid's own claims are true regardless of any >evidence, positive or negative, at all. But, you see, Sid read it in a book, so it's obviously true. I'm not saying that that the book is wrong or anything - but it's validity depends on the interpretation one puts on it, then the ability one has to answer questions based on that interpretation.

I severely doubt that any intended meaning in what Seth said was 'Run from any questions directed at you about what I've said, lest yer comprehension and reasoning abilities be called intae question, likesay!'

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